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Israel is bombing Iran...

The whole thing is pointless, which is what I said 7 pages ago and is becoming increasingly obvious. We’re not going to verifiably eliminate their nuclear capabilities or change their leadership without putting troops in and nobody wants to do that.

If we do put troops in we’ll probably spend 10 years and 10 trillion to zero effect just like we did in Iraq and Afghanistan. Meanwhile our real hostile competitors are in the Pacific, and they’re not pissing away money or resources on this nonsense.

Best case is to lob a bunch of missiles at them and then announce mission accomplished and walk away. That will have zero effect also, but at least we’ll spend $50 billion instead of trillions.
 
The whole thing is pointless, which is what I said 7 pages ago and is becoming increasingly obvious. We’re not going to verifiably eliminate their nuclear capabilities or change their leadership without putting troops in and nobody wants to do that.

If we do put troops in we’ll probably spend 10 years and 10 trillion to zero effect just like we did in Iraq and Afghanistan. Meanwhile our real hostile competitors are in the Pacific, and they’re not pissing away money or resources on this nonsense.

Best case is to lob a bunch of missiles at them and then announce mission accomplished and walk away. That will have zero effect also, but at least we’ll spend $50 billion instead of trillions.
So a 30k lb MOAB on top of their nuclear enrichment site won't do anything?

Did you eat lead paint chips as a kid?

How would you suggest Trump and Israel deal with the threat of nuclear Iran...I'm still waiting on your plan. Or are you ok with Tel Aviv being turned to glass or a mushroom cloud over NYC?
 
I'd like to think the air defense around a nuke power plant would be pretty stout.

Don't think the accuracy is that great but I think it would take luck to shoot a hypersonic down to avoid the strike. Just curious if we are talking a Chernobyl type situation depending on what got hit at the plant. Even Iran may not want to cross that line though.
 
The whole thing is pointless, which is what I said 7 pages ago and is becoming increasingly obvious. We’re not going to verifiably eliminate their nuclear capabilities or change their leadership without putting troops in and nobody wants to do that.

If we do put troops in we’ll probably spend 10 years and 10 trillion to zero effect just like we did in Iraq and Afghanistan. Meanwhile our real hostile competitors are in the Pacific, and they’re not pissing away money or resources on this nonsense.

Best case is to lob a bunch of missiles at them and then announce mission accomplished and walk away. That will have zero effect also, but at least we’ll spend $50 billion instead of trillions.

We can tell if that nuke facility is effectively taken out. Hopefully Israel can do it without our bombers. If not we need to take it out.
 
So a 30k lb MOAB on top of their nuclear enrichment site won't do anything?

Did you eat lead paint chips as a kid?

How would you suggest Trump and Israel deal with the threat of nuclear Iran...I'm still waiting on your plan. Or are you ok with Tel Aviv being turned to glass or a mushroom cloud over NYC?
Wouldnt even need to big boy really, a MOP is the same weight with a slightly lower yield.

Lets just say last time we didnt even take their uranium away we just buried under millions of tons of rock.
 
So a 30k lb MOAB on top of their nuclear enrichment site won't do anything?

Did you eat lead paint chips as a kid?

How would you suggest Trump and Israel deal with the threat of nuclear Iran...I'm still waiting on your plan. Or are you ok with Tel Aviv being turned to glass or a mushroom cloud over NYC?
"Look let's be honest, none of us know what's going on here".
 
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The whole thing is pointless, which is what I said 7 pages ago and is becoming increasingly obvious. We’re not going to verifiably eliminate their nuclear capabilities or change their leadership without putting troops in and nobody wants to do that.

If we do put troops in we’ll probably spend 10 years and 10 trillion to zero effect just like we did in Iraq and Afghanistan. Meanwhile our real hostile competitors are in the Pacific, and they’re not pissing away money or resources on this nonsense.

Best case is to lob a bunch of missiles at them and then announce mission accomplished and walk away. That will have zero effect also, but at least we’ll spend $50 billion instead of trillions.
You are welcome to leave the thread and allow the adults to discuss it.

No one is forcing you to continue to post ...
 
So a 30k lb MOAB on top of their nuclear enrichment site won't do anything?

Did you eat lead paint chips as a kid?

How would you suggest Trump and Israel deal with the threat of nuclear Iran...I'm still waiting on your plan. Or are you ok with Tel Aviv being turned to glass or a mushroom cloud over NYC?
I’d suggest we start focusing our attention, money and resources on China, which is an actual threat, military and otherwise, and quit chasing the same neocon bogeyman that we’ve spent the last 30 years and lord knows how many trillions chasing for absolutely no effect.
 
I’d suggest we start focusing our attention, money and resources on China, which is an actual threat, military and otherwise, and quit chasing the same neocon bogeyman that we’ve spent the last 30 years and lord knows how many trillions chasing for absolutely no effect.

Yep just let this nut who has basically said Israel not existing when they have the force "God willing" is the goal just have nukes.
 
I’d suggest we start focusing our attention, money and resources on China, which is an actual threat, military and otherwise, and quit chasing the same neocon bogeyman that we’ve spent the last 30 years and lord knows how many trillions chasing for absolutely no effect.
Way to keep your eye on the ball Brad ...
 
I’d suggest we start focusing our attention, money and resources on China, which is an actual threat, military and otherwise, and quit chasing the same neocon bogeyman that we’ve spent the last 30 years and lord knows how many trillions chasing for absolutely no effect.
This is from the poster who spent the last month bitching about Trump pushing tariffs against China.

Then when he got tired of being proven wrong daily about tariffs on China, he comes to this thread and demands we do something about China.

And cant understand why he isnt taken more seriously here.
 
The whole thing is pointless, which is what I said 7 pages ago and is becoming increasingly obvious. We’re not going to verifiably eliminate their nuclear capabilities or change their leadership without putting troops in and nobody wants to do that.

If we do put troops in we’ll probably spend 10 years and 10 trillion to zero effect just like we did in Iraq and Afghanistan. Meanwhile our real hostile competitors are in the Pacific, and they’re not pissing away money or resources on this nonsense.

Best case is to lob a bunch of missiles at them and then announce mission accomplished and walk away. That will have zero effect also, but at least we’ll spend $50 billion instead of trillions.
Really? I’m pretty sure one of our bunker busters can absolutely bury those UG facilities. As far as verification, mossad was able to build an entire base in Tehran right under their noses. I think we may be able to figure out if we cleaned this all up without a massive land invasion. I think any regime change should come organically from the people of Iran
 
I mean they’ve supposedly been two weeks away from nuking Israel for literally 30 years. They were two weeks away when Trump (correctly) campaigned on staying the hell out of the Middle East.

We’ve got bigger fish to fry. Threats that actually have the ability to impact our standard of living and safety. Again, everything I’m saying is from Trumps campaign. Draw your own conclusions as to why that’s all out the window (or don’t, probably).
 
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I mean they’ve supposedly been two weeks away from nuking Israel for literally 30 years. They were two weeks away when Trump (correctly) campaigned on staying the hell out of the Middle East.

We’ve got bigger fish to fry. Threats that actually have the ability to impact our standard of living and safety. Again, everything I’m saying is from Trumps campaign. Draw your own conclusions as to why that’s all out the window (or don’t, probably).
Did trump not campaign on “ Iran can never have nukes”? Pretty sure he did.
 


Here argue with this guy. So you guys ALL think the reversal on all of this rhetoric is that theres smoking gun new evidence that now Iran is weeks away from a bomb, for really real this time?

Or you guys just don’t think about it and just march to whatever he tweeted last?
 


Here argue with this guy. So you guys ALL think the reversal on all of this rhetoric is that theres smoking gun new evidence that now Iran is weeks away from a bomb, for really real this time?

Or you guys just don’t think about it and just march to whatever he tweeted last?
I don't have anyone on ignore, but you are close ....
 
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Here argue with this guy. So you guys ALL think the reversal on all of this rhetoric is that theres smoking gun new evidence that now Iran is weeks away from a bomb, for really real this time?

Or you guys just don’t think about it and just march to whatever he tweeted last?
We actually listen to what Trump says. You listen to other TDS patients tell you about Trump. That's why you have no idea what you are talking about.

Trump defending Israel is completely consistent with everything he has done and said about Israel AND the Middle East.

If you want World War 3 and nuclear war, then you want the United States to hang Israel out to dry here. Because doing so GREATLY increases the chances of nuclear war happening.

And honestly at this point, I think you'd be ok with that. Cause then you could blame Trump for it.

You are like a toddler that can't understand why mommy won't let you eat 20 pounds of ice cream a day. You want it, so you should get what you want!

Let's say we follow your advice. Let's say Trump tells Israel to FO, they are on their own.

What happens next? What happens when Iran and all the other Middle Eastern countries that want Israel wiped off the face of the earth, see that the United States won't help them?

They all see red and charge in and attack Israel.

And how would Israel, a nuclear power, respond?

Maybe you should sit in the corner and throw up your ice cream and let the adults handle this one.
 


Here argue with this guy. So you guys ALL think the reversal on all of this rhetoric is that theres smoking gun new evidence that now Iran is weeks away from a bomb, for really real this time?

Or you guys just don’t think about it and just march to whatever he tweeted last?
What you refuse to understand is that nobody is talking about a 20 year occupation. Something more along the lines of that Iranian f@g trump killed in the first term and what he did with ISIS. Remember those right?
 
Shannon Terry is pretty smart. Unless there is a massive upkeep expense to these boards that I'm not aware of, I can't see the business case for nixing them. But stranger things have happened.
I agree, but can't help but think the Rivals team boards will be folded into the On3 ones, just my opinion, but who knows.

He said the rivals MB will stay, but many will leave if it's moderated badly ...
 
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I agree, but can't help but think the Rivals team boards will be folded into the On3 ones, just my opinion, but who knows.

He said the rivals MB will stay, but many will leave if it's moderated badly ...
It's been a good run since Gatorbait. But nobody lives forever. In honor of your honorable modship, if that happens, I promise to go out in a blaze of glory. 😂
 
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